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Field tested ER-POE'S on my live network

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I have been testing a few units since early March and they have been solid.  As in previous product testing I pushed the units and hope they survived as I could not order any spares. :mansad:    The firmware was pre-beta in cases and at first did not received the enhancements that the ERL'S received but I was mainly interested in the combination of a Router / Poe injector and how Ubiquiti would pull it off.

 

ERL-POE-48.PNG

 

Here is a few configurations I currently have running.

 

Pilot Site #1 - Up time 60+ days

 

ER-POE with a 48V power supply.

Port 0 - Fiber Drop :manhappy:

Port 1 - 48V running M5-Ti BH

Port 2 - 48V running M5-Ti BH

Port 3 -  AF24

Port 4 - Trunk port to TS'8

 

TS-8

Port 1 - Trunk to ER-POE

Port 2 - 48V running M5-Ti Sector

Port 3 - 48V running M5-Ti Sector

Port 4 - 48V running M5-Ti Sector

Port 5 - 48V running M5-Ti Sector

Port 6 - 24V running Pico M2 ( Unifi )

Port 7 - 24V running Mfi

Port 8  - Local Access

 

This site is running OSPF and Ping Watchdog with average peak load of just over 160 meg or combined 90-120k pps. I do crush this site on Monday nights as we have two SLA clients that push tb's of data at  night to offsite vaults at their remote locations on my network :manhappy:  I have seen it as high as 600-800 sustained loading for hours at a time.

 

I must say the cabinet is nice and clean now that it lost all the poe's and the tik :manhappy:

 

Pilot Site #2 - Uptime <8 days :mansad: or :manhappy:

 

ER-POE with a 24V power supply.

Port 0 - 24V running M5 BH

Port 1 - 24V running Pico M2 ( Unifi)

Port 2 - 24V running M2 Omni Used for a few nlos clients < .6 miles ( Stuck by Lighting 7/8/13)

Port 3 - 24V Aircam

Port 4 - Trunk port to TS'8

 

TS-8

Port 1 - Trunk to ER-POE

Port 2 - 24V running M5 Sector

Port 3 - 48V running M5-Ti  BH

Port 4 - 48V running M5-Ti  Sector

Port 5 - 48V running M5-Ti Sector

Port 6 - 48V running M5-Ti Sector

Port 7 - Local Access

Port 8 - Mfi

 

This site is running OSPF and Ping Watchdog with average peak load of just over 100 meg.

When this tower took the hit it splattered the omni and blew the rocket. I use cat5 arrestors on all runs down the tower so the ER-POE was safe however port 2 did not show connectivity when the rocket was replaced till I power cycled it.... I wish I would have had enough smarts to grab the log first ( FAIL)..... I was just happy not to have lost the unit.  However I would have like to see if the ER-POE would have survived.

 

Lab Unit : ER-POE 48V Power supply.

 

I have tried to kill this unit with some off the wall configurations and it still works.

 

Config #1

Port 0 - 48V to UAP-AC

Port 1 - 48V to UAP-AC

Port 2 - 24v wireless device :manhappy:

Port 4 - Wan

Port 5 - local access

 

Units were operating fine with 3 meter patch cables for test lab work only and would not recommend. Although the lab was tested for days doing the math shows this would fail when the UAP-AC start drawing down.

 

Config #2

 

Port 0 - 48V to M5-Ti

Port 1 - 48V to UAP

Port 2 - 24V M2 - Backup link

Port 4 - Wan

Port 5 - local access

 

Nothing special just for testing a few client locations where rack space is very limited.

 

Config #3

Port 0 - 24V to Aircam - Break Room

Port 1 - 24V to aircam - Back Door

Port 2 - 24V to Mfi - Back Door / Inventory Door

Port 4 - local access

and

and

Port 5 - 24V to Mikrotik 750UP   ... I know

 

MT-750UP 

Port 1 POE in from ER-POE

Port 2 - 24V Aircam - Entrance

Port 3 - 24V Aircam - Lobby

Port 4 - Mfi  Front Door / windows

Port 5 - AT&T Micro-cell for office coverage

 

This test I just wondered if it could be done and I was two lazy to run the necessary runs to the front office for the new cameras and the 750up has poe in :manhappy:

 

I ran the unit like this for a few weeks till I had one of my installers run some more lines to the front office.   On this crazy config I did notice that when I switched to the 24V power supply on the ER-POE the tik would lock up randomly but I am not surprised :manhappy:

 

 

Config #4 - Home Office - Small Office

 

Port 0 - Wan

Port 1 - 48V  to Polycom phone with passthrough to laptop

Port 2 - 24V / 48v Various testing :manhappy:

Port 4 - UAP-PRO

Port 5 - TV / Netflix

 

I work 150 miles from my home so I have an aprtment down here and like to test things but do not want 100 wall plugs :manhappy:

 

 

In conclusion I really like this addition to the Edge-Max line and I hope this trend continues. I defiantly need larger version with at least 8 ports such as the elusive Pro - Carrier and please let those include poe!! I can use these for smaller sites or Business customer locations however higher density sites would suffer from daisy chaining TS'S,

 

I will be definitely including these in all future sites other that a few with multiple AF24 links.

 

Things I have requested:

- 8 Port POE version with sfp even if it requires losing a port .

- External USB for emergency reflash but I have never needed it.

- 1U Rack Bracket - I know Chris at rfarmor makes one and its great but for small clients I do not need a dual bay model and need a target price of $15-25 like the ones made for MT 493's.   UBNT / Chris up for the challange?

- Simple wall mount bracket

- Locking tab for power plug or at least a strain relief.

- POE-IN Version that could be feed by IEEE 802.3af PoE

- Improved chassis ground - Current units I have are a finished surface and painted screw so grounding required scraping the surface.

 

 

Keep up the excellent work Stig / An-Cheng / Matt / Robert and the rest of the Ubiquit crew :cheers2:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Field tested ER-POE'S on my live network

Thanks for sharing the detailed information! :icon_smile:

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Re: Field tested ER-POE'S on my live network

Love that photo - looks like that unit has seen a bit of use.  :manwink:

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The picture is of the first one I received. It was used in the field / truck / office / laptop bag etc. My other units are nice and shiny and there is a more polished finish on them.

 

That being said this unit has not and will not be treated like fine china :manhappy:

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Fraoch wrote:

Love that photo - looks like that unit has seen a bit of use.  :manwink:


I cannot confirm or deny if I may have slightly dropped that unit on a metal table or cardbox cable box from 1.5m.

 

*cough*

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Don't they always seem to bounce to the right :manhappy:

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Re: Field tested ER-POE'S on my live network

I don't recall dropping one, but after a week it begged to be put into production. :manhappy:

 

1 Ti M5 48v poe

1 Ligo 48v 802.3af poe

1 Rocket M2 24v poe

1 unifi 24v poe

1 port to TS8 no poe

 

Pretty much plain vanilla, DHCP and ospf routing. Droped right into mikrotik router network without a hitch. Uptime was 7 weeks, then I decided to upgrade from dev firmware to production.Upgraded without a hiccup, other than of course as long as it took to reboot. Uptime 7 days since then.

 

I wants more :cheers2:

 

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Very nice! Can't wait to get my hands on them :manhappy:

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Re: Field tested ER-POE'S on my live network


Magician wrote:

 

Config #1

Port 0 - 48V to UAP-AC

Port 1 - 48V to UAP-AC

Port 2 - 24v wireless device :manhappy:

Port 4 - Wan

Port 5 - local access

 

Units were operating fine with 3 meter patch cables for test lab work only and would not recommend. Although the lab was tested for days doing the math shows this would fail when the UAP-AC start drawing down.


 

Does this mean that the ER-POE is unsuitable for powering the UAP-AC's?

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They work great in my testing on office network, What I meant to say is that I would run one of these with other devices on ER-POE but 2 or more of these might see issues. This is really a call for Stig and crew to make :manhappy:

 

I currently have my office running

eth0 - wan

eth1 - 48V UAP-AC ( cable @ 90' )

eth2 - 24V mport (mfi) ( Cable @ 50' )

eth3 - 24V Aircam ( Cable @ 50' )

eth4 - 24V rocket Low power for bench testing radios ( Cable @ 6' )

 

Works great without issue :manhappy:

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dcui wrote:

Magician wrote:

 

Config #1

Port 0 - 48V to UAP-AC

Port 1 - 48V to UAP-AC

Port 2 - 24v wireless device :manhappy:

Port 4 - Wan

Port 5 - local access

 

Units were operating fine with 3 meter patch cables for test lab work only and would not recommend. Although the lab was tested for days doing the math shows this would fail when the UAP-AC start drawing down.


 

Does this mean that the ER-POE is unsuitable for powering the UAP-AC's?


Wouldn't it depend on the 48V power brick used?

You're clearly not going to have a good time if you're trying to pull more power out of the ER-POE than the power brick is rated to be able to supply (and don't forget to leave a margin for losses, the draw of the ER-POE itself, etc).

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Yes i have a 48V 1.25A brick attached on this unit.

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Yeah actually we've been working with the UniFi team to test this, and currently two of the UAP ACs in our production network are powered by an ER PoE, also using mFi sensor to monitor the power consumption in real time of couse. :icon_smile: So far it looks like it is capable of powering two UAP ACs but as Magician said adding another device may be pushing it a bit. Of course this also depends a lot on the actual environment/network and we will continue to monitor the stability in the current setup.

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Yeah actually we've been working with the UniFi team to test this, and currently two of the UAP ACs in our production network are powered by an ER PoE, also using mFi sensor to monitor the power consumption in real time of couse. :icon_smile: So far it looks like it is capable of powering two UAP ACs but as Magician said adding another device may be pushing it a bit. Of course this also depends a lot on the actual environment/network and we will continue to monitor the stability in the current setup.


Being that it's an external power brick, and that 48V is just passthrough (from what I've read in other threads) - wouldn't replacing the power brick with a larger one solve this (ie, 48V 2A/3A or something)

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NVX wrote:

Being that it's an external power brick, and that 48V is just passthrough (from what I've read in other threads) - wouldn't replacing the power brick with a larger one solve this (ie, 48V 2A/3A or something)

We have not tested that here, but the hardware team says yes theoretically that should be the case.

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I have a 48 2.5 amp and will try powering 4 uap-acs
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For the past few hours I have been running this stress test.

 

48V 2.5A ps connected to the ER-POE

eth0 - lan to MT CCR - Test unit

eth1 - 48V to UAP-AC - Watching netflix on my laptop 3-5 megs - 50' patch cable

eth2 - 48V to UAP-AC  - Laptop with usb 3.0 1250AC card running iperf test to MT router connected to eth0 ( 400+ meg load for past 2 hours) - 50' patch cable

eth3 - 48V to UAP-AC - sitting idle - 3' patch cable

eth4 - 48V to Rocket M5-Ti - 100' patch cable - Pushing built in speed test to connected device I am testing.

 

Only thing I have noticed is the unit seems warm but with all that traffic I am not concerned :manhappy:

 

I like's

 

 

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Mind sharing the model of the 48V 2.5A PS?
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