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will this work?

hey guys, got a quick question. I'm planning on upgrading my parents wireless network to wireless n. however, the house is a bit large with a lot of concrete in the walls and the rooms are quite spread apart. After much thought, this is the setup i'm planning, feel free to add any tips.

Wireless router: Apple Airport Extreme
Access Points: 1 or 2 UniFi AP (via ethernet from the apple)
there will be no dedicated controller obviously.

Is there anything i'm missing or not thinking about? I'm aware that the access point is single band only but i'm sure thats all that will be required.
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Re: will this work?

hey guys, got a quick question. I'm planning on upgrading my parents wireless network to wireless n. however, the house is a bit large with a lot of concrete in the walls and the rooms are quite spread apart. After much thought, this is the setup i'm planning, feel free to add any tips.
Wireless router: Apple Airport Extreme
Access Points: 1 or 2 UniFi AP (via ethernet from the apple)
there will be no dedicated controller obviously.
Is there anything i'm missing or not thinking about? I'm aware that the access point is single band only but i'm sure thats all that will be required.

You would have to have a controller with the unifis for now. (afaik)
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Re: will this work?

I was under the impression that I could initially set it up with my mac and once that's done, it would work on its own, regardless of whether the computer was present or not? If that's not going to work, please do recommend a setup where I can extend the range of router without a dedicated controller. Thanks for the assistance!
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Re: will this work?

I was under the impression that I could initially set it up with my mac and once that's done, it would work on its own, regardless of whether the computer was present or not? If that's not going to work, please do recommend a setup where I can extend the range of router without a dedicated controller. Thanks for the assistance!

Use a Pico2M and don't worry about a controller either way. (or two)
www.ubnt.com/downloads/datasheets/picostationm/picom2hp_DS.pdf
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Re: will this work?

Pretty sure you only need the controller for initial setup, and if you use the guest portal.

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how is the pico in terms of range compared to the unifi? since my only option is one without a controller, is the pico my only option? Should i be worried that it only supports 150mbps and not the full 300?
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Re: will this work?

how is the pico in terms of range compared to the unifi? since my only option is one without a controller, is the pico my only option? Should i be worried that it only supports 150mbps and not the full 300?

Do you have a 300Mbps internet connection?
What about a 150Mbps internet connection?
Do you require LAN speeds at or faster than 75Mbps?
If those answers are no, then use a pico.
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Should i be worried that it only supports 150mbps and not the full 300?
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Re: will this work?

Requirements do include wireless streaming of hd media files within the network, but i'm guessing 75mbps should be enough (estimating about 30mbps per client and a max of two using the media). Thanks for all the input. Am open to suggestions, will only be making the purchase after 2 days, so do feel free to comment.
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Video streaming is for wired network, do not use wireless for streaming, I like UBNT Wifi best of all devices, but Wifi itself is for grandma and email checking, web browsing and not for serious usage, learn difference between simplex and duplex etc.... Always use wired network if it is possible and buy a serious router at least MikroTik, not some Apple crap, my 2 cents.
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Video streaming is for wired network, do not use wireless for streaming, I like UBNT Wifi best of all devices, but Wifi itself is for grandma and email checking, web browsing and not for serious usage, learn difference between simplex and duplex etc.... Always use wired network if it is possible and buy a serious router at least MikroTik, not some Apple crap, my 2 cents.

You are out of your mind.
Tell that to the business providers on here who send 10-50 Mbps to their customers which they run VOIP over, without a hitch.
I don't know what experiences you've had with wifi in the past, but that statement (above) is not true at all.
I will agree with you to run wired whenever possible, but sometimes wireless is the most efficient way to get service (cost/reliability/speed/latency).
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Re: will this work?

'bbyf16', your initial idea is just fine.

Yes: you only need to use the UniFi controller
software for initial setup; thereafter,
UniFi devices operate as independent access
points. Mount them on the ceiling and run
Ethernet cables to the main router.

Do not use the outdoor PicoStation indoors; it is
also an awkward and unsightly radio to mount.

Your actual data rates may be 30Mbps for each
access point, assuming signals are at good levels. Dave
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Do not use the outdoor PicoStation indoors; it is
also an awkward and unsightly radio to mount.
You really don't notice it in a corner and two dry wall screws will hold the included mount in place. Wire molding can hide the cable, or run it up a corner.
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Re: will this work?

Do not use the outdoor PicoStation indoors; it is
also an awkward and unsightly radio to mount.

There's no reason to hide a radio when the
UniFi is meant to mount in the center of the room
for best coverage--not in the corner. Dave
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Re: will this work?

Do not use the outdoor PicoStation indoors; it is
also an awkward and unsightly radio to mount.

There's no reason to hide a radio when the
UniFi is meant to mount in the center of the room
for best coverage--not in the corner. Dave

The UniFi has an antenna advantage over the Pico and is much more attractive. It's also a bit less expensive. But I've installed a boatload of Pico 2's indoors. We put them in hotels and condos inside the wall. We take off the faceplate, or install an add-inn LV receptacle and reach in and Velcro it to the inside of the drywall. We have yet to have one fail. I like them because they were a very low power radio. Haven't really tried the HP model.
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Re: will this work?

All things considered, I would prefer to go with the unifi because of the aesthetic appeal as well as the increased range. And if whats being said here is true, and that it doesn't need a dedicated controller, then I would like to jump on it. Once again, thanks for the input guys, I'm still keen to hear opinions if people still have them.
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Welcome! Nobody has any more ideas.... Dave
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Re: will this work?

UniFi only requires the controller for the initial setup and if you are using a guest portal, you do not need the controller on 24/7.

The Picostation M2-HP is still a very nice access point though. You can even put the UniFi firmware on it if you want. The output is impressive for the size of the device.

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