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Re: Requests/suggestions for new hardware models

Hardware AES for OpenVPN would be awsome Man Happy

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Re: Requests/suggestions for new hardware models


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Hardware AES for OpenVPN would be awsome Man Happy


Disable all crypto and OpenVPN is still only 30mbit/s max. You'd gain more improvement from re-implementing it in-kernel than you would get from AES offload (which the hardware can already do anyway presumably - ipsec uses it).

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Re: Requests/suggestions for new hardware models

I haven't read this whole thread yet, but VDOM setup would be awesome.  I've been doing some Fortigate labs in-house (we're a Watchguard user) and the VDOM setup blows me away.  Hypervisered firewall, awesome.

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PoE input.  To be able to power the EdgeRouter Lite from a ToughSwitch would be great.

Or, an EdgeRouter Lite with an integreated 8-port PoE switch on one of the routed ports.

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Re: Requests/suggestions for new hardware models

One more vote for an 8-port unmanaged LAN switch integrated with an EdgeRouter Lite.  For pricing, keep in mind that a simple unmanaged gigabit Ethernet switch would generally cost $30 over the cost of a standard EdgeRouter Lite.  There can be some premium to having it in the space of one small desktop package and power input.

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Re: Requests/suggestions for new hardware models

Here is a suggestion for a slightly lower end competition to the Cisco RV325.

The goal here is to make a single box that takes the place of a single EdgeRouter Lite and multiple small desktop unmanaged switches for small LAN segments.  This would be great in the embedded space where LAN segments may only be a couple devices each, and there is limited space for multiple devices or multiple power adapters.

EdgeRouter Lite style router with 16 ports in a small desktop package.

Use two ports for WAN.

Use 14 ports for a smart LAN switch.  Keep the cost down by not needing a fully managed LAN switch, maybe just smart enough for VLANs to replace multiple unmanaged switches.

No VPN processing required.

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I have been following both CCR and EdgeRouter development and I'm surprised none of these two have something for industry.

The first one that hits market and can strongly compare to RuggedCom will be huge winner. By the way, Siemens bought RuggedCom for quite big amount and there is reason why. The prices are also very different compared to Ubnt or Mikrotik products. Cisco is starting industry line to get some of market.

The steps may look huge, but the market is also: utility, oil, gas, transport etc.

I see it quite simple: it's rugged 2921 with DC PSU and options for more SFP.

But like someone before wrote here, it's not only hardware. The OS have to been stabile with all that "standard" features for routing.

And lastly, it's about 3-4 months since we run 22 CCR with different functions in a ring. No problem at all. Edgemax Pro was also interesting, but too late and too many delays.

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Oh man, I like the modular designs of those RuggedCom devices.

RuggedCom

http://www.automation.siemens.com/mcms/industrial-communication/en/rugged-communication/products/swi...

Something like that would allow one to have their cake and eat it, modular PSUs for DC or AC input, PoE options (that require a beefier PSU for real use, so price isn't wasted on expensive high capacity PSUs when PoE isn't in use), ability to mix and match between switched and routed ports, fibre  and copper ports, etc.

Add a few missing software features (MPLS/etc) and you've suddenly got a very capable and flexible design fit for any purpose. Far better than trying to make N different models all mostly the same but with slight variances for specific usecases/etc (although for physical/power/cost reasons, the Lite models are still a good entry level offering)

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Re: Requests/suggestions for new hardware models

Agreed -- it's a nice design.  Unfortunately, from a manufacturing standpoint, it's almost certainly a deal killer for UBNT.

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You make an important point about manafacturing costs.
This device obviously uses a backplane strategy--with all
its extra connector, packing and space expense.

But why doesn't Ubiquiti think modular in hardware design
and field applications? Right now, I'm being afflicted with
having to 'reverse-engineer' ToughSwitch by opening it up
and bypassing the power supply to feed 48V dc. I can't
find a single alternate choice on the market that provides
mixed 24 and 48V PoE outputs--so I'm stuck with this.

This is a kludge that voids the warranty and takes extra time.

It's crystal-clear that real-world field installers have this kind
of need for flexible power choices all the time. It's often
discussed, and it was urgently requested before ToughSwitch
was ever released to manufacturing. After this elegant design
work, why not pay attention to the last few percent of details
that make so much difference up on the tower?

(..or in this case, up on the ceiling of a big warehouse...)

Then there's the skimping on hardware; I had to spend $20
each on PowerBridge to replace all the nuts and bolts. And
I had to hand-paint the bare metal parts--that weren't even
galvanized or otherwise protected against rust. That's an
extra hour and a half to remedy a bad manufacturing choice.

Then there's the issue of mounting ToughSwitch and PoE
supplies that have no way to hang or screw them to a surface.

Then there are all the little doors and covers that fall off and
get lost or don't seal well because they're not captivated.

This is about paying attention to installer needs and details.  Dave

 


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Re: Requests/suggestions for new hardware models

I'm 100% with you on more flexible designs.  Stuff like power supplies, mounting tabs, groundling lugs, etc. make a big difference.

How about this one from 2008:  PLEASE DESIGN YOUR SWITCHERS FOR A DC INPUT LIMIT OF 30V.

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I'd love to see an ER-POE with a simple/cheap UPS (diode OR) circuit (like this) and solar MPPT charge controller. Basically a Genasun UPS/Charge controller (the only semiconductor in these things is an Atmel ATTiny) controlled by the router CPU.

I've actually designed and deployed two dozen of these in the field (using Beaglebones controlling the UPS/SMPS, rather than using the microcontroller as a bridge driver used by Genasun), but wish for a better integrated solution.

A design similar to the TS8 would be perfect-- putting the UPS/Charge controller on a second board would allow a simple PSU and solar/ups/charge PSU to differentiate the products.

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Right--and with a dc limit of 30V, there would be no
problem floating them on a 24V power supply--which
has been an issue described many times here.   Dave


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Re: Requests/suggestions for new hardware models

Some asked to add temperature sensor to ER? Would be fantastic in a piece of hardware like EdgeRouter.
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Re: Requests/suggestions for new hardware models


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Some asked to add temperature sensor to ER? Would be fantastic in a piece of hardware like EdgeRouter.

Both the 8-port ER models do have temperature sensors.

stig@ubnt-SJ:~$ show hardware temperature 
Temperature:
  Board (CPU): 39C
  CPU: 63C
  Board (PHY): 47C
  PHY: 74C

 

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@UBNT-stig OMG! :-X i have just submited one article to knowledge base! Thanks a lot!
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Re: Requests/suggestions for new hardware models

I like the idea of some modularity as well, something like the Juniper SRX220 would be very attractive to me - 

 

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Re: Requests/suggestions for new hardware models

@PLan are you ready to pay x4 times the price of the actual ER? :-P
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sabueso wrote:
@PLan are you ready to pay x4 times the price of the actual ER? :-P

 

Juniper, like other manufacturers, charge a premium for their products - I would hope Ubiquiti would be somewhat more competitive.

EDIT:

Just to be clear I used the SRX220 because it is a device with more ports and a couple of module expansion slots - not because I wanted extra functionality beyond basic modularity.

 

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Re: Requests/suggestions for new hardware models

Why would you need a modular backplane?

IE. what can you not do with SFP+ that you are expecting to do with modular cards?

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