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EU Version

When will there be a EU version.

 

Also the mounts will not usable here, we mostly use tiles on the roof of the houses in the Netherlands.

 

Al the systems here in the Netherlands using the following system.

 

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Can the inverter also used with other solar panels?

 

While where be a 230/240 version?

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Re: EU Version

@aavdberg, initial product targets US market but very soon will cater to EU market (we already have custom end-run based on most EU / IEC countries.

 

In addition to shingle, we already have a custom mount system for tile rooftops. Exploring other scenarios actively (ex. metal rooftops).

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Re: EU Version

We have similar roof in Denmark as Netherland, so need same type of roof mounting.

 

But I don't get the idea with UBNT provides solarpanels. There's extreme price competition on that part.At least here in Denmark....

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Re: EU Version

EU market is coming very soon...  The microinverter is flexible enough to accomodate pretty much any market requirements.  Its just a matter of code and getting compliance in that market to meet the grid requirements.

 

In regards to a tile mount ours is a post type solution vs the hook style you show.  The big difference in our system vs the one you picture is that rail that runs acoss the roof in your image doesn't exist on sunmax.  The panels hook directly to the roof mount locations.  The concern with the hook type mounts was the rigidity of them without the rail connecting across.  Also since the mounts hook onto the end of the panel, so the mounts need to be within range of the panel edge which may not coincide with the tile spacing. 

 

To install the post mount you screw the base into the roof rafters under the tile.  Then drill a hole in the tile.  Reinstall the tile and then place the upper flashing in place (which is formable for different shape).  Then screw the riser post in from the top.

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Re: EU Version

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UBNT-Aaron1 wrote:

 

 

To install the post mount you screw the base into the roof rafters under the tile.  Then drill a hole in the tile.  Reinstall the tile and then place the upper flashing in place (which is formable for different shape).  Then screw the riser post in from the top.


@UBNT-Aaron1 I'm not sure you´re allowed to do that. Here in Denmark that has been a lot of problems with installers not installing solarpanels correct. That caused the roof to break and afterward a lot of problems with insurance, who to blaim etc.

 

You much check with local building regulations. I'm not sure it's very easy in Europe as every country has their own building regulations...

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Re: EU Version


UBNT-Aaron1 wrote:

Then drill a hole in the tile.


@UBNT-Aaron1 That is not recommended for all kind of tiles. It solely depends on what kind of tile your roof is made of.

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Re: EU Version

Aavdberg, as @UBNT-Aaron1 stated, there is an EU version.  Both versions are actuall 230/240V (depending on what local AC power is), and all the necessary wiring systems to comply with local standards are included (the End-Run adapter).

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UBNT_Sean wrote:

Aavdberg, as @UBNT-Aaron1 stated, there is an EU version.  Both versions are actuall 230/240V (depending on what local AC power is), and all the necessary wiring systems to comply with local standards are included (the End-Run adapter).


@UBNT-Aaron1 That sounds great but UBNT must be aware of the mounting brackets. They must (at least here in Denmark) comply with local building regulations...

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Re: EU Version

@jjonsson We much appreciate the feedback- this highlights one of the main challenges of solar installations - the inconsitency and wide range of local code/requirements. We want to make the community a place to voice/document these concerns and work on our end to make them easily referencable so that when someone else is considering purchasing the product in Denmark they can be aware of the concerns you've voiced. As we continue to roll our product out to an international market, such concerns can help us best prepare to make it accessible as possible.

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Re: EU Version


UBNT-APieper wrote:

@jjonsson We much appreciate the feedback- this highlights one of the main challenges of solar installations - the inconsitency and wide range of local code/requirements. We want to make the community a place to voice/document these concerns and work on our end to make them easily referencable so that when someone else is considering purchasing the product in Denmark they can be aware of the concerns you've voiced. As we continue to roll our product out to an international market, such concerns can help us best prepare to make it accessible as possible.


@UBNT-APieper Feel free to contact me when you're ready for Denmark :-)

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Re: EU Version

Those tile roof hooks are the worst thing in the world! If UBNT could come up with a better, faster solution I would be so happy! In my region in South Africa, metal roofs are everywhere! Please make those just as awesomeMan Happy

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Re: EU Version

Frgot for any drill to roof in Czech Republic too. It is same as posted in first post/picture. Drill to roof....silly idea.

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Re: EU Version

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SunMax is really useless for EU and for ISP. Just another microinverter system, but sexy by ubnt ... Not battery, no mast holders, just direct AC output ... AND this devices are illegal in Czech Republic. Code&laws says that solar systems needs to be galvanicaly separated - and this is not real with grid-tie system ... As I said - useless ...

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Re: EU Version

@lwq: What about the microinverters is illegal in Czech?  We're trying to get acceptance throughout the EU, and have met many of the standards, including the VDE 0126 standard that specifies the galvanic isolation in the redundant disconnect.  If that's what you're referring to, then that's covered.  If there's a requirement that you know about beyond that, we'd love to hear about it and get some feedback to help improve the product to work in all jurisdictions.

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Re: EU Version

Another thing is that the inverter must be approved in the Danmark for that to be allowed to send electricity into the electricity grid

this authority must approve the inverter

http://energinet.dk/DA/Sider/default.aspx

they also write in English

 

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Re: EU Version

Hi

 

Would be awsome to be able to use the products here in Denmark! (if some from Denmark has more information, please let me know)

 

Here is the documentation on how to get an inverter approved - I can't find the english version, I am waiting for a respoinse from them in regards to the english version

 

http://energinet.dk/DA/El/Solceller/Tekniske-krav/Sider/Solcelleinverter-paa-positivlisten.aspx

 

 

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Re: EU Version

Hi

 

Here is the official link to the Danish regulation :

 

http://energinet.dk/EN/El/Forskrifter/Technical-regulations/Sider/Regulations-for-grid-connection.as...

 

Thanks

Felix

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Re: EU Version

Thanks for the link, while the EU certifications are moving forward, it's good to have specifics for each country.  We'll compare what we already have going and see what extra may be needed for Denmark.

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Re: EU Version

@flexyz.

Thank you for the useful information.
We have gone throug the information at http://energinet.dk/EN/El/Forskrifter/Technical-regulations/Sider/Regulations-for-grid-connection.as... And We are sure there's no problem for UBNT MI to satisfy the function requirements in Technical Regulation 3.2.1, and the certification and register is on going right now.
Besides, We will try to make denmark certification as higher priority than other countries since you looks high interesting to the product. You will see it in Denmark soon.

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Re: EU Version

Denmark is one of the most environmental conscious countries in the world. Right now 60% of our electricity comes from windmills.

Until recently we had the worldrecord for largest offshore windmill farm in the world (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_offshore_wind_farms_in_Denmark). 80% of all offshore windmills in Europe are shipped out from the harbour of my city Esbjerg, here in Denmark.

No. 1 largest windmill company in the world is Vestas from Denmark.

 

So we are used to green energy, and a solution like SunMax would be nice to have here...

 

 

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