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Re: Chicago

oh yeah, all the signs at the conference (and the web site and...) show 125 mbps, but Mike's lovely demo only showed what, 112 or so?


Are you complaining about 112 megs out of an $89 radio?
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Re: Chicago

"112 megs out of an $89 radio?"


I will take those #s any day!!
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Re: Chicago

Are you complaining about 112 megs out of an $89 radio?


No, but I'd like to hold any vendor's feet to the fire about what they advertise. If you advertise a 150 meg radio, I want to buy a 150 meg radio. Saying 100 meg would have been just as big of a leap, and made people more happy when it did more than advertised.
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Re: Chicago

oh yeah, all the signs at the conference (and the web site and...) show 125 mbps, but Mike's lovely demo only showed what, 112 or so?



Hello,
125 to 150Mbps is point to point applications, and/or heavily loaded PTMP AP. If you noticed, every test that I added more clients the throughput was going up. I can only get 11 user's (limited by space and shipping costs) in this portable setup, but steadily as the user count increases the aggregate throughput at the AP goes up.
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Re: Chicago

Guys --

Kind of hard to find, but we have marketed PtMP at 100Mbps+ and PtP at 150+Mpbs with M series...

take a look here...

ubnt.com/products/basestation.php
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Re: Chicago

Marketing is such a subject field. At this point, manufacturers don't really have a standard like stereo manufacturers so you have to read all the information.

For example, when Vivato first came out, they bragged 1000 users, 13 streams, 11Mbps. The reality was, 1000 users was how many MAC addresses they could store, you couldn't run more than 3 seperate channels simultaneously meaning 150 users (it had 11 or 13 radios in the base unit), and you couldn't use more than 30mw without causing cross-channel interference.

SkyPIlot came out saying their radios could do 20Mbps. The reality was, they only supported that under UDP, a standard that nobody else was using for marketing. Under TCP/IP, 10Mbps was the realistic throughput. You had to dig through the white papers to find that though. That wasn't anywhere in their documentation.

So, getting to this last issue, 150Mbps. My first reaction is that is a single computer to computer transfer rate. The reality is that's under load of multiple computers transferring data. That part caught me off guard also. Most of us will be using these radios to handle one household talking to a tower. Therefore the number is accurate in AP mode, but not really realistic for the client mode since not a lot of my clients have 11 computers in their house.

Probably the best thing to do is to clarify that in the brochure. However, I think there is still some tweaking in the firmware to do to improve single data transfer rates and optimization for video traffic in both TCP/IP and UDP. Firetide and Tropos have made some pretty impressive strides in that area as their products were out.
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Marketing is such a subject field. At this point, manufacturers don't really have a standard like stereo manufacturers so you have to read all the information.

For example, when Vivato first came out, they bragged 1000 users, 13 streams, 11Mbps. The reality was, 1000 users was how many MAC addresses they could store, you couldn't run more than 3 seperate channels simultaneously meaning 150 users (it had 11 or 13 radios in the base unit), and you couldn't use more than 30mw without causing cross-channel interference.

SkyPIlot came out saying their radios could do 20Mbps. The reality was, they only supported that under UDP, a standard that nobody else was using for marketing. Under TCP/IP, 10Mbps was the realistic throughput. You had to dig through the white papers to find that though. That wasn't anywhere in their documentation.

So, getting to this last issue, 150Mbps. My first reaction is that is a single computer to computer transfer rate. The reality is that's under load of multiple computers transferring data. That part caught me off guard also. Most of us will be using these radios to handle one household talking to a tower. Therefore the number is accurate in AP mode, but not really realistic for the client mode since not a lot of my clients have 11 computers in their house.

Probably the best thing to do is to clarify that in the brochure. However, I think there is still some tweaking in the firmware to do to improve single data transfer rates and optimization for video traffic in both TCP/IP and UDP. Firetide and Tropos have made some pretty impressive strides in that area as their products were out.


After Robert's post, I did notice the different numbers for different uses. According to Mike's demonstration, you can indeed get more than 100 megs in PtMP. Now I realize that 150 megs applied to PtP links.
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Re: Chicago

First post here. Long time lurker for info, but after going to the Chicago AirMax conference, I figured it was time to register.

First, I loved the conference, and thought all of the products looked great. I am excited for everything to come out.

Also, I cannot believe you guys that complain about speeds a on a product which is not even completely developed in terms of software. I think that the speeds are really great at this price point and am not all disappointed.

Thanks to EVERYONE from Ubiquiti who made the trip to Chicago, nice job!
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Resurrecting a thread that is two years old is a certain way to not find anyone.
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Re: Chicago

I agree, it would be rare to find someone who responds, but not impossible.  Maybe some of the people who posted on this thread checked the receive notifications box and were alerted by my post.  Maybe not.  

I did also post something similar in the wireless forum here.  Do you have any other suggestions for thread locations I should post in?

Maybe I should post something in the general discussion topic also. 

 

What do you think?

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Re: Chicago

Why don't you try the business forum.
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