07/13/2018
12 BaseStationXGs provide exceptional service at high density concert (ZZ Top)
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Description

We recently deployed the new Basestation XGs at an outdoor concert that had over 10,000 attendees. At previous events, attendees had issues bringing tickets up on their phones via 4g data because of the sheer amount of connections that registered to nearby cell towers. This caused unnecessary delays for the thousands of people trying to check in through the security lines.  

 

Here is a birds eye view of the area to show the extreme density of users we will be serving.Stage.JPG

 

We are allowed to mount to the light poles on the outside, as well as the "front of house" structure in the middle of the seating. Fiber was buried between most of the poles. We had a few poles that needed 60ghz added so we used Siklu multihaul. We hope UBNT comes out with a 60ghz solution as we love the single pane of glass SDN capabilities of the Unifi controller.

 

 

As we looked at Wifi vendors, we decided whatever we deployed needed to meet several conditions.

1. IP67 outdoor rated enclosure + Aesthetically pleasing design

2. 802.11 AC Wave2 Mu-Mimo compatibility

3. High quality antennas with variable beamsteering capabilities.

 

 

Enter the BaseStationXG!IMG_20180627_143715.jpg

 

The XG easily checks off all of our requirements, and we were able to slash our quote significantly. At $1,499 MSRP we are WAY under our previous estimates from other vendors.

 

The XG touts 3: 4x4 MU-MIMO AC Wave 2 radios under the hood with 3 adjustable antennas that can be independently  switched from a 90degree pattern with 10dBi gain or 50 degree pattern with an incredible 15dBi gain on the fly.Antenna.JPG

 This flexibility was essential to us achieving success in a very complex RF design.

 

We mounted our AP's on the top of the poles. This helped us achieve as much downtilt as possible to limit the cell size of each AP. Combining downtilt with low power is key in a high density environment like this.IMG_20180629_215722.jpg

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 We received many compliments for how cool they looked at night. The LEDs are fully adjustable, both intensity and color can be set to whatever value you want.

 

 

Here is a neat shot of the front of house equipment shelter. IMG_20180629_215036.jpg

 

IMG_20180629_215107.jpgCount the XGs!

 

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Here is what our final design looked like from the Unifi Controller.Client count map.JPG

 A bit hard to tell from the picture, but the AP's near the seating all have between 108 to 153 clients attached. A nice balance.

 

 

 

client count.JPG

 

  If you click on the image you will see how well the unifi controller balanced the AP's. Using a combination of MinRSSI, Cell Size Tuning, and Minimum Data rates, we created a network that seamlessly handed off client devices from Basestation to Basestation. It takes several days to really nail everything down perfectly, but the end result is truely impressive. The larger concert that is coming this fall will be a true test of the XG. 160 concurrent clients is nothing for these guys.

 

Around 10k clients, 1,246 connected simultaneously passing 220mbps.  This concert was ZZtop performing so it drew more of an older crowd, I expect a much higher usage ratio at future events.

 

 

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The XG BaseStations performed incredibly well for us, and we look forward to stress testing them more at the next event. I would highly recommend them for anyone looking to install WiFi for a high density event.

 

And of course, to handle that many clients you need to bring it all home to a very capable router! Like the BaseStation XG, the Unifi XG Gateway did not break a sweat.IMG_20180713_114926.jpg

 

 

 

12 BaseStationXGs provide exceptional service at high density concert (ZZ Top)

by ‎07-13-2018 02:21 PM - edited ‎07-16-2018 01:21 PM

We recently deployed the new Basestation XGs at an outdoor concert that had over 10,000 attendees. At previous events, attendees had issues bringing tickets up on their phones via 4g data because of the sheer amount of connections that registered to nearby cell towers. This caused unnecessary delays for the thousands of people trying to check in through the security lines.  

 

Here is a birds eye view of the area to show the extreme density of users we will be serving.Stage.JPG

 

We are allowed to mount to the light poles on the outside, as well as the "front of house" structure in the middle of the seating. Fiber was buried between most of the poles. We had a few poles that needed 60ghz added so we used Siklu multihaul. We hope UBNT comes out with a 60ghz solution as we love the single pane of glass SDN capabilities of the Unifi controller.

 

 

As we looked at Wifi vendors, we decided whatever we deployed needed to meet several conditions.

1. IP67 outdoor rated enclosure + Aesthetically pleasing design

2. 802.11 AC Wave2 Mu-Mimo compatibility

3. High quality antennas with variable beamsteering capabilities.

 

 

Enter the BaseStationXG!IMG_20180627_143715.jpg

 

The XG easily checks off all of our requirements, and we were able to slash our quote significantly. At $1,499 MSRP we are WAY under our previous estimates from other vendors.

 

The XG touts 3: 4x4 MU-MIMO AC Wave 2 radios under the hood with 3 adjustable antennas that can be independently  switched from a 90degree pattern with 10dBi gain or 50 degree pattern with an incredible 15dBi gain on the fly.Antenna.JPG

 This flexibility was essential to us achieving success in a very complex RF design.

 

We mounted our AP's on the top of the poles. This helped us achieve as much downtilt as possible to limit the cell size of each AP. Combining downtilt with low power is key in a high density environment like this.IMG_20180629_215722.jpg

 IMG_20180629_214213.jpg

 We received many compliments for how cool they looked at night. The LEDs are fully adjustable, both intensity and color can be set to whatever value you want.

 

 

Here is a neat shot of the front of house equipment shelter. IMG_20180629_215036.jpg

 

IMG_20180629_215107.jpgCount the XGs!

 

IMG_20180629_214136.jpg

 

 

IMG_20180629_215118.jpg

 

IMG_20180629_211438.jpg

 

 

Here is what our final design looked like from the Unifi Controller.Client count map.JPG

 A bit hard to tell from the picture, but the AP's near the seating all have between 108 to 153 clients attached. A nice balance.

 

 

 

client count.JPG

 

  If you click on the image you will see how well the unifi controller balanced the AP's. Using a combination of MinRSSI, Cell Size Tuning, and Minimum Data rates, we created a network that seamlessly handed off client devices from Basestation to Basestation. It takes several days to really nail everything down perfectly, but the end result is truely impressive. The larger concert that is coming this fall will be a true test of the XG. 160 concurrent clients is nothing for these guys.

 

Around 10k clients, 1,246 connected simultaneously passing 220mbps.  This concert was ZZtop performing so it drew more of an older crowd, I expect a much higher usage ratio at future events.

 

 

traffic.JPG

 

The XG BaseStations performed incredibly well for us, and we look forward to stress testing them more at the next event. I would highly recommend them for anyone looking to install WiFi for a high density event.

 

And of course, to handle that many clients you need to bring it all home to a very capable router! Like the BaseStation XG, the Unifi XG Gateway did not break a sweat.IMG_20180713_114926.jpg

 

 

 

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Comments
by
on ‎07-16-2018 07:57 AM

As a patron of that venue during one of the concerts there with this setup (and a person who recognizes silly things like this), thanks! It worked great!

 

Cell signal normally is meh there anyways, so this was nice! Not to mention they did look pretty bad-ass.

 

Funny thing, though, is that I wasn't familiar with the new XG devices yet, so I didn't realize they were Unifi devices at first until my wife asked me which prompted me to look a little further.

 

Great write-up, too!

 

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by Ubiquiti Employee
on ‎07-16-2018 11:30 AM

Awesome setup and fantastic story. Well done!

by
on ‎07-17-2018 11:49 AM

@Wifimax I notice you have both a USG Pro and a USG XG there, may I ask why you used both? 

by
on ‎07-18-2018 10:29 AM

How was the concert?  I love ZZ Top.

by
on ‎07-18-2018 10:35 AM

@sdaudet

 

I was really new to the XG router lineup, so I had the pro racked right above it as a standby unit... Just in case Man Happy

 

Everything worked great though and the XG router was perfect.

by
on ‎07-19-2018 06:19 AM

That's great to see, I've been considering that unit as well but curious how it worked in the real world.  What do you run for security on the APs?  Are you doing open auth or some sort of WPA2 enterprise with a signup/accept page.  Historically I had an issue with android devices finding open wifi and all connecting at the same time then bogging it down, might not be as much of an issue with this unit and the min rssi.

by
on ‎07-21-2018 09:38 PM

Beautiful install!

 

I really want to get ahold of one of those xg and try them out.

by
‎07-24-2018 12:53 PM - edited ‎07-24-2018 12:55 PM

So, the XG Basestation is 5G only. How many clients are out there today that don't have 5G, only 2.4G built in? 

Is this a problem today? 

 

We currently thinking of creating a mobile event setup.

by
on ‎07-24-2018 01:07 PM

@Machtl

Correct there are 3 independent 5ghz radios. No 2.4ghz.

 

I can't think of any consumer devices that don't have 5ghz, we certainly did not get any complaints. I think some of these are still in the early access store, I highly recommend scooping them up.

by
on ‎07-24-2018 01:08 PM

In our most recent large venue ( https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Stories/Very-large-outdoor-UniFi-installation-with-all-the-bells... ) we used 9 Base Stations plus a bunch of Mesh, Mesh Pro and some SHD UAPs to cover the 2.4GHX folks and fill in some areas.   Using bandsteering we saw most users working on 5GHz.

Jim