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Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

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I'm planning to buy a G3-Flex and a G3-Pro (or prbably a G4-Pro) for outdoors. I don't want to drill holes into my windows or walls, so I searched for other solutions and I found this jumper cable: https://www.amazon.com/Elanx-Ethernet-capable-Extension-Adhesive/dp/B077M8F7YD/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_produ....

 

According to the description, this should be working as a Cat5/6 cable, and I could just put it between the windows frame. Does anyone here have experience with such a cable? Would this work or what could be the downside? Is there probably any other solution around (I do have a power outlet outside for example)?

 

Thanks in advance and regards

TiRohn

 


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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

Not an official solution, but there are wireless bridges that you can use instead. I have a bunch of cameras working quite happily over a wireless link. In my case I'm using the Ubiquiti airGateway Pro which is now an obsolete product, but you can still find them available.

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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

It seems the ad says it all:

   "Due to its special construction so there is no braiding wrapped

    inside the cable, the spead and signal attenuation is weaker than

    the standard cat 5e and cat 6 patch cable. This cable is not suitable

    for those customers who persuit super high speed singal."

 

In other words, you might get away with this for this very short length--

especially if you only want 100Mbps performance. You're on your own.   Dave


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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

This should work for 100Mbit/s perfect....but the outside is not waterproof, or am I wrong?

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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

These are Gb cameras--not 100Mbps. Not waterproof....  Dave


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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

All this Cameras will work with 100Mbit/s, of course u must manage at the switch only 100Mbit. But rain at the outside of the window, over the time you will get water into the connector.

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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

Thanks for the swift answers already, sounds like it might work, as long as I keep the outside connector dry... How do you guys handle this? Everyone drilled a hole into the wall? Any other solutions?

 

Thanks and regards 

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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

Yes: it's usually [not always] easy to drill a 6 or 7mm hole

in the wall.  Dave


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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

I tried a short flat cable before and it did not work.  I suspect it is not related to the speed but rather it cannot carry the current of PoE.  It is the same issue with round ultra-thin wire.

 

G3 cams are 100 mbps and G4 is gig.

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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

It should easy carry the power!

 

did the led start blinking? Maybe you are using the wrong POE injector ?

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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

I can assure you he knows which PoE injector to use.

These wires are actually conductive paint printed onto

plastic film, so their current-carrying ability is nil.   Dave


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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

If he is using Power Method 802.3af PoE, it would be 48V the camera (g3 pro] needs 4W. We talk about 80-100mA over two pairs. I am sure this should work! 

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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

Not an official solution, but there are wireless bridges that you can use instead. I have a bunch of cameras working quite happily over a wireless link. In my case I'm using the Ubiquiti airGateway Pro which is now an obsolete product, but you can still find them available.

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@ambor wrote:

Not an official solution, but there are wireless bridges that you can use instead. I have a bunch of cameras working quite happily over a wireless link. In my case I'm using the Ubiquiti airGateway Pro which is now an obsolete product, but you can still find them available.


So basically you have the PoE Injector and one of these airGateway Pro outside with the cam and access the cam the through wireless protocol? That sounds quite like a plan to me... Man Happy

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@TiRohn wrote:

@ambor wrote:

Not an official solution, but there are wireless bridges that you can use instead. I have a bunch of cameras working quite happily over a wireless link. In my case I'm using the Ubiquiti airGateway Pro which is now an obsolete product, but you can still find them available.


So basically you have the PoE Injector and one of these airGateway Pro outside with the cam and access the cam the through wireless protocol? That sounds quite like a plan to me... Man Happy


Correct, it's all spelled out here: https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Video/Making-the-G3-wireless-with-the-AirGateway/m-p/1603652#M59...

 

Ubiquiti has EOL'ed this whole line of products so it's not a "supported" solution, but I can tell you that it works great in my setup on a CK2+ and all the latest firmwares.

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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

'tirohn', I don't think you'll find this 'AirGateway' idea

at all useful for you here. It won't solve any issues,

and it won't eliminate that cable.

 

AirGateway is nothing more than small WiFi client

when used like this. All it does is convert the camera's

Ethernet port to a WiFi signal that can then be sent to

a WiFi access point.

 

> it is not waterproof; it can't be put outside

> it requires power in addition to the camera, so it

   must have its own power supply or PoE power--

   and so must have a power cable to it

> your camera must still be powered by PoE, and

   there must still be an Ethernet cable to it

 

This isn't a solution for you in any way. It could work

to eliminate a long cable from a wired camera to the

network, but it doesn't eliminate a cable to the camera.   Dave


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@Dave-D wrote:

This isn't a solution for you in any way.


In the initial post it does say there is external power available. It's also very easy to find an IP67 enclosure to go next to such an external power outlet. Then it's just a matter of running a CATx cable to the desired camera location. But as I said, this airGateway approach is not the favoured one since UI killed the product.... but it certainly looks like it would suit the brief and I have several of these that are rock-solid in production.

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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

@ambor and @Dave-D , thanks for the clarification. It’s indeed a probable solution since I have one power outlet under some small porch roof, and I would probably try this as a solution there. What nags me a bit is the discontinuation of the AGWs, that’s something I have to think about hard before I go down that road. So, basically still thinking about the possibilities, but thanks a bunch for all the hints and tipps!

 

regards

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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

Another "outside the box" / "unofficial" solution would be to use a Powerline Ethernet device like this one:

 

https://www.amazon.com/AV2000-Powerline-Pass-Thru-Gigabit-PLA5456BBKIT/dp/B01MTNKNPZ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa...

 

They've come a long way since the old low bandwidth ones. Again, would need a waterproof enclosure outside and it would need to be on the same power phase at both ends (don't know what country you are in but there are many configurations out there).

 

No drilling holes, no EOL devices.

 

If you get this working, would be good to post your results here. I haven't tried it on a UI Protect system before, but I've used these before for incovneniently located devices (like sensors) and it works fine.

 

 

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@ambor wrote:

Another "outside the box" / "unofficial" solution would be to use a Powerline Ethernet device like this one:

 

https://www.amazon.com/AV2000-Powerline-Pass-Thru-Gigabit-PLA5456BBKIT/dp/B01MTNKNPZ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa...

 

They've come a long way since the old low bandwidth ones. Again, would need a waterproof enclosure outside and it would need to be on the same power phase at both ends (don't know what country you are in but there are many configurations out there).

 

No drilling holes, no EOL devices.

 

If you get this working, would be good to post your results here. I haven't tried it on a UI Protect system before, but I've used these before for incovneniently located devices (like sensors) and it works fine.

 

 


Yes, I thought about this one as well, though the bandwidth limitation was making me worries so long. I had some of these a few years back and was heavily disappointed, getting way more speed with my WLAN than with these guys. But you might be right, they did quite improve the last years as well...

Of course, I will update on my final solution, though this might take some more weeks, since the Ubiqiti products I want to setup are not on stock here (in Switzerland btw), and they're announced to be not before end of June... Man Sad

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Re: Unifi cameras working with RJ45 jumper cables?

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'tirohn', my reply assumed you need to access a

camera outside in the weather. Sure: if you can find

a receptacle you can manage to be weather-tight

year-round and also package the non-weatherproof

AirGateway with its non- weatherproof PoE power

'brick', outside but still in range of an access point.

you can do this. Same with the ac mains carrier....

 

That seems a stretch to me compared to drilling

one 7mm hole in the wall, but it's your project. I

know Davos is suffering from global warming, but

Switzerland still isn't known for gentle winters.

 

I wouldn't worry that AirGateway is discontinued if

you can find one. This is a one-off solution, no?   Dave

 

I've only been to Chamonix once, but still in awe;

what gorgeous mountains everywhere!


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