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Looking to increase Wi-Fi and cellular signal

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I live out in the country where as you know internet and cell signal is most of the time very poor but we still get cell signal in some areas.

What I would like to do is have some help choosing what I should use to increase wifi and cell signal and have reception within at least 200 feet but the more the better you know. We have lots of metal buildings which of course deflects the cell signal and wifi and since the nearest cell tower our signal comes from is on the opposite side of our main garage it should be, we get no signal.

The highest point is a 50ft tall tv antenna used to receive local channels that is higher then every metal building so I feel there would be signal up there, we also have a lift I can use to take me up there to test if there is signal before I put whatever i'm putting up there.

So in short:

A cell signal amplifier if ubiquiti has one (i'm not sure)

Something to increase wifi signal that can be connected to by wireless devices and not a type of receiver or something (this would have to be able to penetrate metal roofing and walls)

Both of these would be put on top of the antenna

But for the wifi, if it resorts to this, I could just have a point to point connection no more than 200ft and have a wireless router in our garage but thats no fun is it now.

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Re: Looking to increase Wi-Fi and cellular signal

I'm confused by your question.

 

Ubiquiti does nothing with cellular service.

 

Except for celluar service, Internet service isn't 

broadcast offering where you can put up a tall  

antenna to improve it.

 

If you want WiFi inside metal buildings, you can

wire them with access points. But of course they

are of little use if you don't have good Internet.   Dave


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Re: Looking to increase Wi-Fi and cellular signal


@Dave-D wrote:

I'm confused by your question.

 

Ubiquiti does nothing with cellular service.

 

Except for celluar service, Internet service isn't 

broadcast offering where you can put up a tall  

antenna to improve it.

 

If you want WiFi inside metal buildings, you can

wire them with access points. But of course they

are of little use if you don't have good Internet.   Dave


Ok so improving cell signal is out of the question. I am not wanting to use the antenna to improve Wi-Fi, I want to put something ubiquiti offers on top as it is the highest point around. Is there anything ubiquiti has that can be put outdoors, have an Ethernet cable ran to it, and be used as an access point with superior reception?

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Re: Looking to increase Wi-Fi and cellular signal

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They have devices that range from mild to wild for outdoor APs. How big do you want to go? What is your goal? Are you trying to get wifi inside metal buildings from one outdoor AP? That isn't a good solution. Can you post a Google Earth/Maps picture of what you are trying to do?

 

A pair of Nanobeam 5AC Gen2s could be used to tie your 200ft together. A little overkill maybe, but I like overkill.

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Re: Looking to increase Wi-Fi and cellular signal

Even if something existed that you could put on top of that tower and BLAST wifi down into your metal, rf-insulated builings..... that still won't work like you're thinking it will.  Your wifi devices have to be able to communicate BACK TO the access point.  They won't be able to do that effectively through a metal building. 

 

Your only real option is to have an access point located inside each metal building.  You can uplink those APs either over a wire or wirelessly, but you'll really need to have an AP inside the buildings.

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Re: Looking to increase Wi-Fi and cellular signal

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@RobbieH wrote:

They have devices that range from mild to wild for outdoor APs. How big do you want to go? What is your goal? Are you trying to get wifi inside metal buildings from one outdoor AP? That isn't a good solution. Can you post a Google Earth/Maps picture of what you are trying to do?

 

A pair of Nanobeam 5AC Gen2s could be used to tie your 200ft together. A little overkill maybe, but I like overkill.



Could I have something that was able to broadcast a wireless signal everywhere outdoors but also have an access point inside the building that is connected to whatever is on the antenna? If I understand stand correctly that would be a PtMp correct? Also i guess I should what our internet speeds are, We can get at least 12 Mbit/s on a bonded DSL line and then there is an option to go up to 24 but we have not tried that because the ISP says it's we're to far from the terminal for it to do any good.

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Re: Looking to increase Wi-Fi and cellular signal

You can buy the biggest antenna you like to blast signal, but how do you expect your laptops, computers, tablets, phones etc to talk back?

You need to place access points in each of the buildings you require wifi signal.

Just because I can shout at you 200m away, and you can hear it, does not mean you can shout back as far..

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Ok I understand that now, I would like to know if I there's a way to have an access point on top of the antenna that could be connected to with wireless devices, but also be connected to an access point inside a building by having a radio outside the building and then an ethernet cable ran inside to an access point?

Here's a visual representation.

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Re: Looking to increase Wi-Fi and cellular signal

I'm still very confused about your request.

 

First, you need an Internet service from some

provider. That's typically from a cable modem

for home users. Then you need to connect the

service to a router, and then to one or more

devices, including access points.

 

Yes: you can connect an omni access point on

a roof, but it will have limited distance--perhaps

100 to 200m to portable devices around the

outside of the building.

 

Yes: you can connect one or more ceiling-mount

inside access points as well, to provide coverage

within a building.  Dave


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Re: Looking to increase Wi-Fi and cellular signal


@Dave-D wrote:

I'm still very confused about your request.

 

First, you need an Internet service from some

provider. That's typically from a cable modem

for home users. Then you need to connect the

service to a router, and then to one or more

devices, including access points.

 

Yes: you can connect an omni access point on

a roof, but it will have limited distance--perhaps

100 to 200m to portable devices around the

outside of the building.

 

Yes: you can connect one or more ceiling-mount

inside access points as well, to provide coverage

within a building.  Dave


Ok hows this,the actual place im putting this is on top of a 50ft tall tv antenna because its the highest point. I want to have an antenna for internet up high and one on the building so I don't have to run a ethernet cable underground and inside. Instead I will be able tot run an ethernet cable from the the antenna on the roof of the building inside to a router or access point. I also want to know if the antenna thats up high will be able to have PTP for pointing towards the garage and PTMP at the same time for being outside on the phone.

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Re: Looking to increase Wi-Fi and cellular signal

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"Yes: you can connect an omni access point on

a roof, but it will have limited distance--perhaps

100 to 200m to portable devices around the

outside of the building.

 

Yes: you can connect one or more ceiling-mount

inside access points as well, to provide coverage

within a building."

 

No: an omni antenna on the roof won't cover acres.

The 'highest' point will likely give you poor coverage

locally because most of the beam pattern will be

above the other locations. No: an omni antenna on

the roof won't cover the inside of your house. No:

a rooftop antenna won't provide coverage inside

other buildings at a distance. If you want to cover

your garage, the best solution is probably a simple

point-to-point radio link with an inside access point.  Dave


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