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Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

Hi Guys,

 

I read a bit through the forum, but can't seem to find the answer.

 

I have a customer who would like to improve WiFi in the house. The BEST location that I can find in the house would be in the attic. The attic obviously will experience severe temperature swings in the summer/winter. I assume the attic could reach temps of 120-140F, and possibly freezing temps in the winter.

 

Will this cause a problem for the units? Has anyone done something similar?

 

Thanks everyone.

 

-Taylor

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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

Did you try looking at the datasheets by any chance? That's normally where you find such stuff Man Wink

 

FWIW I wouldn't put any of the indoor UAPs in a loft/attic unless its well ventilated as I think people seriously underestimate the temperatures in summer. For example our loft in the UK regularly exceeds 55C in summer and we're not exactly a hot climate.

 

YMMV of course....

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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

I tend to agree with you. I don't have a desire to put them in the attic. I'll approach alternative options. They are not well ventilated. Temps in the summer could easily reach ~140F.

 

I did look at the datasheet. I could not find that info.

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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

I installed one in my single story house attic about 6 months ago and have not had any issues so far, even with the Texas heat. The AP has an awesome range, but you will see an increase in RX Frames from neighboring APs on the same channel.

 

 

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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?


axonconet wrote:

I did look at the datasheet. I could not find that info.


Couldn't have looked that hard then Man Happy

 

Specs are -10C to +70C (convert that to your own archaic system).

 

The spec on outdoor kit is -30C to +70C from memory.

 

What's wrong with the ceiling immediately below where you were mounting it in the loft/attic? That's where its intended to go.

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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

Well, you're just a peach aren't you?

Looks like I read the quick-start guide, not the datasheet. My mistake.

Appreciate your input. Running cable in this house is particularly difficult. Electrician did all of the electric in the house and will be running the Cat cable, wants to put them in the attic.
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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

The sparky gets told where to run cable, not the other way around.

 

Seriously though the internal kit is supposed to be mainly ceiling mounted, so a simple 10mm hole in the ceiling from the loft/attic and you're sorted. That way you don't have to wonder whether the glue holding the (internal) UAP's case is going to come apart in the temp/humidity cycles - not being funny either, it'll happen unless the loft is very very dry.

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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

No issues with operating temperatures?Looks good.

 

I just called another one of my customers. They install AC units in residential and commercial buildings. I am inquiring with them to see what their guys have seen in terms of temperatures in attics. Have they ever seen above 158F? That's the question.

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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

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@Vestas Appreciate your knowledge. Perhaps I can convince him to run the cables where I would prefer them instead of dealing with the inevitable death of these AP's in that hot attic.

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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure that the UAPs will do OK(ish) up there for a while.

 

However its you he's going to be calling up if they do go flakey in hot/cold weather, not the electrician.

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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

100% agree. it will and is my responsibility. Hence why I am doing my due diligence to find the best route.

The AC guys told me they've never seen attics in all the homes they've gone to go above 130F, in the hottest days of summer.

Unit is okay (hopefully Man Happy) up to 158F. Still seems a bit risky.
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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

So why not drill a hole into the living area below the attic & fit it there?

 

Its no more of a blot on the landscape than a smoke detector Man Happy

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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

Agreed. Planning on going with that route.

Thanks again for all of your input! Enjoy the day.
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If its an old house - or even not - then get yourself a 50m (retractable) reel of Cat6 cabling with connectors and go for a wander with the UAP-AC-LR to find the right spot.

 

Use the antenna pattern and some patience Man Happy

 

 

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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?


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Appreciate your input. Running cable in this house is particularly difficult. Electrician did all of the electric in the house and will be running the Cat cable, wants to put them in the attic.

Huh? If you have network cable in the attic, what's so hard about poking a hole through sheetrock for the cable so the AP can be mounted on the ceiling like intended?

 

Have your electrician just leave a 5 foot loop of cable above where the AP should be mounted if for some reason with data cable he's afraid of poking a hole through sheetrock.  

 

And for all your drops, make sure your electrician leaves you extra slack in the walls on both ends of the cables.  Electricians are often not low voltage cable specialists and if he cuts the runs to their actual length you are going to have fun in the future when you need to make changes/repair things.  

 

Unlike electrical cable, you can leave excess data cable in the wall with no issue.  It doesn't need to be stapled to the stud right before the electrical box like electrical cable....

 

Wow - what a potential nightmare.  Why do you have an electrician running data cable?!?  

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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

He runs CAT cabling for businesses and residences all of the time. He knows what he is doing. He knows to leave extra on both ends.

Not sure what you're freaking out about?
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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

In fact, it's very common here in NJ for Electricians to work with both data and electric.

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axonconet wrote:
He runs CAT cabling for businesses and residences all of the time. He knows what he is doing. He knows to leave extra on both ends.

Not sure what you're freaking out about?

I'm glad you have competent electricians - I must have "lucked out" in having to cleanup after ones who didn't know how to run data cable. 

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Re: Safe operating temperatures of the AP-AC-LR?

@EricE I am sure there are a plethora of Electricians in NJ that are equally terrible.

I've known this Electrician for over 2 decades. He's fantastic. Very knowledgeable.
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