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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

I am happy with this choise, but my only concern is that I use the 24v pass though on the Nano M5 to power cameras, and mesh aps. Does anyone know if the nano stations are going to make the switch as well or if they are going to keep doing the 802.11af/24v for the mesh and just 24v for the cams?

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

  That doesmake it slightly more cumbersome for some installs.  We have Nanobeams and Nanostations at some sites linking areas not servicable by physical cable.  On rare occasions, we've needed to reboot them remotely and it is very useful to be able to do so by power cycling the switch port.  I suppose we'll have to use 802.3af to 24V passive adapters for future installs.

 

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Airmax product will remain 24V and unifi will be 802.3af/at

 

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)


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  That doesmake it slightly more cumbersome for some installs.  We have Nanobeams and Nanostations at some sites linking areas not servicable by physical cable.  On rare occasions, we've needed to reboot them remotely and it is very useful to be able to do so by power cycling the switch port.  I suppose we'll have to use 802.3af to 24V passive adapters for future installs.

 

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Or use EdgeRouters and EdgeSwitches, which I believe will still keep 24v and 802.3af/at.

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

   Virtually all of our deployments are at remote sites, so the Unifi cloud capabilities are much preferred.  It's just in the cases where a long distance bridge is needed and there is no corresponding Unifi product available that the Airmax devices comes into play.  Like I said, it can still work, we'll just have to add another adapter in the mix.

 

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Or use EdgeRouters and EdgeSwitches, which I believe will still keep 24v and 802.3af/at. 

 

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

@UBNT-APieper Will the new UAP-AC-LITEs and LRs still be produced with the standard POE (802.3af/at) support? 

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

@UBNT-APieper  FYI, the following chart needs to be reupdated to remove the requirement of instant converters for UVC-G3, UAP, UAP-LR now that 24v passive will remain in current USW models.

 

https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005755567-UniFi-PoE-Switch-Compatibility-for-UAPs-and-UVC...

 

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

@jacktooandroid Yes- that's right. They will continue to support 24V/802.3af/at. 

@TSG-MK Thanks for pointing out- we'll review and look at what revisions need to be made here and elsewhere to documentation. 

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

Does it mean the current Unifi 24V POE switches will continue to be non-isolated in both 24V and 802.3af/at mode?
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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

I have e been using the Airmax  ES-24-250W  in one Unifi environment for the last

couple of years. The issues with withdrawing the 24v support on the US family

would be eased by making an emulation available to run Unifi on the Edgerouter ES family.

as is done with the Pico. 

A single switch line would simplify spares holdings and allow UBNT to rationalise manufacturing.

Is this feasible?

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

So what Ubiquiti is *finally* admitting is that they were wrong to use passive POE on these two models? Am I the only one who doesn't remember practically being called a retard by Ubiquiti for continuing to bring out new models (Lite/LR) that were passive instead of 802.3af?

 

This disappoints me because I use UniFi switches for my CCTV installs (*not* UniFi video!!) for easy management and power the wireless bridge as well.

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

@UBNT-APieper What I am really concerned about is 1) when the soon to be "Legacy" switches will be phased out therefore forcing us to get non-passive-supporting switches where 2) much of our "Legacy" endpoint devices require PoE (hopefully we can phase those out at the customer level soon enough) (once again) therefore forcing us to have our customers purchase the the Instant Adapters.

Don't get me wrong, I am ALL FOR THIS, but concerned about legacy support and the duration of time that the support will exist. After all, we invested a lot into the mFi product line and look what happened there :-p
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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

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https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_Switch_8_DS.pdf

 

It still isn't updated regarding the converter that isn't needed. 

 

 

https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_PoE_Switch.pdf

Seems updated though.

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

Because a converter is still needed on the US-8-60W.
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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

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I'm glad.
A question arises to me, however.
Setting the 24V support means that all current G3 models would need a POE adapter. Are there any current plans to bring the G3 models to the usual 48V or are new cameras already in the planning stage or even in production and ready for the market?

Or are the cameras at 24V POE passive and this Instant_POE_Adapter  should be the planned future solution?

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

What about your products like the UNC G3 camera that is passive?  will you be updating them to POE+?

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)


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What about your products like the UNC G3 camera that is passive?  will you be updating them to POE+?


G3-AF is already shipping.

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)

Yup, there are plans to move ALL Unifi devices to POE+ (except for the legacy Unifi switches - they won't have passive POE removed)

 

I wish the POE+ G3 cameras would hurry up since I need to a couple more five packs.  At least the G3 bullets come with POE instant injectors to convert them, but it would be nice not even having to deal with the injectors.

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Re: Update on 24V Passive PoE Support on UniFi Switch Product Line (8/25/17)


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G3-AF is already shipping.


I hope they have a new part number 😜

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