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Point to multipoint community creation w 400 users

I live in a dense community of 400 homes with LoS to a small tower.  The land is flat.  The max distance to the tower from any user is 2500 feet.   I am able to bring a fiber ISP connection to the tower to serve the community.  Community currently has old DSL without upgrade path.  Looking for advice on network design or links to knowledge base articles or example neighborhoods using Ubiquiti equipment.  Thanks for anything you can offer.

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Re: Point to multipoint community creation w 400 users

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I hope you're ready for an unvarnished response.

 

This building complex is incredibly dense-comprised of lightweight

prefab buildings. This density and construction type means that the

users will have a huge number of radio devices--including WiFi--

all creating immense interference at once. There is no way to

control or limit this, and Ubiquiti equipment for the most part

operates on the same unlicensed frequencies.

 

This simply means you should not attempt to cover this use

with radio--or at least not with radio alone. Because the distance

between buildings is tiny, this installation calls for a fiber optic

distribution system. Ubiquiti also makes products for this specific

use. But of course, that does require running cables; in this

environment, with soft sandy soil, it should be very easy to do.

 

https://www.ubnt.com/ufiber/ufiber-olt/

https://fiber.ubnt.com/

 

You might get away with providing an overall distribution system

via radio--but that will require extremely precise engineering and

placement, and will likely require constant attention to avoid the

high and changing interference patterns here. Even if that were

feasible, it would not be possible to provide radio service to each

building at this density; you would need clusters with cabling.

 

Is this a Southern Pines HOA project and do they have a budget

for this, or is this a commercial venture?    Dave

 


> HQ in Seacoast region New Hampshire U.S.A.
> Ubiquiti Certified Trainer [UCT] for:
     UBWA [AirMax] / UEWA [UniFi] / UBRSS [routers]
UBNT.NH@gmail.com

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Re: Point to multipoint community creation w 400 users

[ Edited ]

I hope you're ready for an unvarnished response.

 

This building complex is incredibly dense-comprised of lightweight

prefab buildings. This density and construction type means that the

users will have a huge number of radio devices--including WiFi--

all creating immense interference at once. There is no way to

control or limit this, and Ubiquiti equipment for the most part

operates on the same unlicensed frequencies.

 

This simply means you should not attempt to cover this use

with radio--or at least not with radio alone. Because the distance

between buildings is tiny, this installation calls for a fiber optic

distribution system. Ubiquiti also makes products for this specific

use. But of course, that does require running cables; in this

environment, with soft sandy soil, it should be very easy to do.

 

https://www.ubnt.com/ufiber/ufiber-olt/

https://fiber.ubnt.com/

 

You might get away with providing an overall distribution system

via radio--but that will require extremely precise engineering and

placement, and will likely require constant attention to avoid the

high and changing interference patterns here. Even if that were

feasible, it would not be possible to provide radio service to each

building at this density; you would need clusters with cabling.

 

Is this a Southern Pines HOA project and do they have a budget

for this, or is this a commercial venture?    Dave

 


> HQ in Seacoast region New Hampshire U.S.A.
> Ubiquiti Certified Trainer [UCT] for:
     UBWA [AirMax] / UEWA [UniFi] / UBRSS [routers]
UBNT.NH@gmail.com
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Re: Point to multipoint community creation w 400 users

Thank you very much Dave.  You confirmed for me the need to go fiber.  This would be a private venture.  I have background with fiber transport networks.  I will take a look at the refs you provided.  

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