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NanoStation M5 whitout external Antenna???!!

Why??!!

I just bought 3 nanostation M5 and i planed to used them with external antenna just like i was doing with my nanostation 2. Surprise..no external connector..!!

I wanted to use external omni directional antenna Low profile to mount on vehicule.

I want the feature of the Airmax plus the 802.11n and power on the 5ghz.

What do i choose from then?:



Bullet M5hp 300mW(where is the 600mW?)
Rocket M5 500mW(2 chain? do i need 2 antenna?)


Help me please!

Thank you!
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Re: NanoStation M5 whitout external Antenna???!!

Chose a bullet5MHP (1 chain 802.11N). If you find a dual polarized (vertical and horizontal) omni antenna chose a rocket M5 (2 chain 2x2 MIMO 802.11N ).


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Juan
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Re: NanoStation M5 whitout external Antenna???!!

Can i use only one antenna on the rocket m5?
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Re: NanoStation M5 whitout external Antenna???!!

It would be pointless, using only one chain, would give u none of the benefits.
Ubiquiti have stated that they are not supporting omnis for the rocket, you would need to work out the seperation required.
Hence they have put all the development into the dual pol sectors and the dish.
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Re: NanoStation M5 whitout external Antenna???!!

I see..

I uderstand that Ubiquiti is now developing devices for wisp business and less for Lan usage...
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Re: NanoStation M5 whitout external Antenna???!!

Jflaganiere, here's the advice I gave
you before:

<
So the Nanostation's internal antenna
won't do you any good. Why not simply
use Bullets connected directly to your
outside antenna? That will permit you
to run CAT5 instead of coax.>>

I never suggested you could use the
NS M5 with an external antenna.

I did suggest you could use the NS Loco M
inside the trailers, or a Pico if you want to
use an external non-'n' device; it's tiny
and inexpensive.

If you plan to use 'n' mode and you insist
on a separate antenna on the trailer, the
way to drive it is with Bullet M5. If you
choose a N-connector antenna, you could
mount the Bullet outside directly to it.

Rocket M5 is not supported for one antenna.
It's not currently supported for compatibility
with non-'n' clients. It's intended for backhaul;
it doesn't seem to fit i this situation at all. Dave

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Re: NanoStation M5 whitout external Antenna???!!

Thanks Dave for your reply.

I understand.

I was just trying to put chances on my side by having the max power. Knowing I could attach an antenna on the nanostation2, I supposed it will be the same for the M5...

I'm concerned by the bullet M5HP since it has 300mw and I planned to use it with a 3dbi low profile omni antenna.

will you still go for the BulletM5HP?

The reason why i didn’t choose the 2.4Ghz series it’s because it more used in general right?
Because bullet m2HP 600mw and bullet M5HP 300mw???WHY?

One again thank you!
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Re: NanoStation M5 whitout external Antenna???!!

I'd say you need to be less concerned
about the rf power. The difference
between 300 and 600mW is only 3dB.

If you use external antennas, you'll
lose 2dB just in the cable and two
connectors; that's why mounting
the antenna directly to the Bullet or
using a self-contained radio helps a bit.

If your antennas are actually in sight
of the AP, and are only a few hundred
feet away, power isn't an issue. If a
metal structure blocks the path, no
amount of power will help.

I'd use 5Ghz equipment simply to avoid
conflict with the huge amount of 2.4Ghz
stuff in an urban environment. It will be
an unknown that could plague you. Dave

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Re: NanoStation M5 whitout external Antenna???!!

jflaganiere...

Could you go into more detail on what you want to do. That way we can offer input more germane to your application, instead of tossing out ideas that wouldst help you as much.
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Re: NanoStation M5 whitout external Antenna???!!

i see

mostly the antenna are located around max 300 feet apart, some can be up to 1000feet away.
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Re: NanoStation M5 whitout external Antenna???!!

Ok :

10 Semi(trailers acting) as offices: Voip, Web and VPN

I want to setup a "Mesh" for the office(eliminate wiring each time the office move)

I want to mount low profile antenna(the max i have found is 3dbi) on top of each office. www.wpsantennas.com/trab24003np-antenexphantomlowprofile24-25ghz3db-meggainantennablackpermanentmoun...

The office will move and be relocated each months. So i want to eliminate the setup part(No antenna alignment,mounting or cabling).

One of the office is mine and the internet access is coming in along with servers.

Since the office are relocated the distance separating them will vary 10-1000 feet. But the mission critical one will stay within 300feet.

No building or metal structure obstructing. only Canvas tent(Circus).

Thank you!
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Re: NanoStation M5 whitout external Antenna???!!

jflaganiere, I thought we had covered
all this in great detail in your previous
thread. My advice still holds.

Is there something I'm missing here?
Have I not answered all your questions? Dave

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Re: NanoStation M5 whitout external Antenna???!!

I am answering to wht.

Always good to have different opinions!

JF