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WiFi in the RV park

I am trying to setup a new wirless system in a clients rv park. I have guestamated that i will need 7 access points.
as the access points i was looking at using the Bullet M with a Omni antenna
but to broadcast from the club house to the rest of the park i was looking at using the Bullet M with 2 Sectors side by side or going with a Omni antenna.
This is going to be kinda of a running log on top of that for help.
This is what i have and any input on device would be greatly accepted.
Now for the fun stuff. I cant run wires to anything. I can run power but cannot run Ethernet cable to anything. So it will be all wireless as far as in the signal.
As far as the main router i was going to run with smoothwall or the DD-WRT computer router base to handle the load.

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This is where i was thinking of placing the antennas. The clubhouse off the right is where the main feed will be.
The blue dots are areas where the video was taken
The yellow dots are antenna placement.

Here is a few videos that will show elevation. and what i am working with
youtu.be/OEpjqYkanIA
youtu.be/ABnKHbyNYYU
youtu.be/VtVxsx7V0SM
youtu.be/rwri4-W94CE
youtu.be/NzgT-oSgsk0
So what do ya think? If i think i am missing something please say.
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Re: WiFi in the RV park

I would use either a Nanostation M5 or Rocket M5 with an omni at the clubhouse, and Loco M5s at your cell sites for the backhaul. Then use UniFi access points (or any 2.4GHz access points) at each cell location to provide local WiFi coverage. By having your backhaul separate from the 2.4GHz stuff would give you the most performance.
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I would use either a Nanostation M5 or Rocket M5 with an omni at the clubhouse, and Loco M5s at your cell sites for the backhaul. Then use UniFi access points (or any 2.4GHz access points) at each cell location to provide local WiFi coverage. By having your backhaul separate from the 2.4GHz stuff would give you the most performance.


what is the usual radius of the Unifi?
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Re: WiFi in the RV park

This is the pattern of the UAP-Outdoor unit from UBNT website:

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Re: WiFi in the RV park

Be aware that the range of the units depends on obstructions like trees and the strength of the client devices.
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Re: WiFi in the RV park

Yes, I've found that a usable range is roughly 300 feet outdoors on a clear LOS to a smartphone, but it's much less indoors.

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Be aware that the range of the units depends on obstructions like trees and the strength of the client devices.


and thats my biggest issue. As in the videos there aint that many trailers and trees are bair but at times the park is full and trees are full. And i need to make sure that the signal gets inside everyones rv at good signal overing the whole park.

here is a new overview with the roads drawn in.
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Re: WiFi in the RV park

The only solution to that is more access points, more density. Put a few up and do a survey when the trees are full. Note that UniFi can do a WiFi relay one hop away from a wired connection (which is where your Loco is), so you don't have to have a backhaul to every AP.
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Okay. I guess i need to do some testing. Who do you recommend to get some equipment from so i can run my tests?
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Yea i had seen that. I am in Houston Texas, But i was just seeing if there was anyone ya recommend.

like pefer newegg over bestbuy.. type of thing...Icon Lol
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well come to find out the ower has changed there mind again... Icon Mad They want to keep there current wirless but they want to extend the signal. Soo what do you recomend that i can use to extend the signal.

The red dots are at -70db and the rest are not even registering...


I had said they are making a mistake but thats what the customer wants. The customer is always right... "If you say so"
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well come to find out the ower has changed there mind again... Icon Mad They want to keep there current wirless but they want to extend the signal.

The red dots are at -70db and the rest are not even registering...



So the dots are their current setup?
and the 2 red dots I have circled are the only ones that are connecting at -70db and the others are not working?

Please explain.
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So the dots are their current setup?
and the 2 red dots I have circled are the only ones that are connecting at -70db and the others are not working?

Please explain.


No they only have a single broadcast from the clubhouse. the 2 red dots are where i can only pick up signal when doing a survey with "inSSIDer by metageek"
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No they only have a single broadcast from the clubhouse. the 2 red dots are where i can only pick up signal when doing a survey with "inSSIDer by metageek"


What is the current setup equipment?

To be honest I don't think you can improve the main signal to the other areas without making wireless backhauls as mentioned by Pando in his drawing at the start of this Post.

Wireless needs the device to talk back to the transmitting AP and no matter if you manage to boost the signal to more area the chances are you will get devices that will not get a signal back to it.

Can you get more elevation on the current setup to get better line of site?
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this is what they have. that i can see....
they also have a router in a box...
its tengo internet... they are not happy with it.
as far as in elevation its already on top of a 10ft pole on top of the roof so its probly 25-30 ft in the air....
i have no idea what the blue box is and the POE is connected to the blue box.. and i am guessing the luxul wireless is a ground..
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this is what they have. that i can see....
they also have a router in a box...

its tengo internet... they are not happy with it.

as far as in elevation its already on top of a 10ft pole on top of the roof so its probly 25-30 ft in the air....

i have no idea what the blue box is and the POE is connected to the blue box.. and i am guessing the luxul wireless is a ground..


Interesting... but they don't offer much on what equipment they use.
www.tengointernet.com/business-services/ensuring-your-network-runs-smoothly.html

I suppose its past the 90 days of their return guarantee Icon Eek
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as I said before, it would be a waste of money to try and provide a better signal from the same location.
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Interesting... but they don't offer much on what equipment they use.
www.tengointernet.com/business-services/ensuring-your-network-runs-smoothly.html
I suppose its past the 90 days of their return guarantee Icon Eek

yea.. and the owner is wanting to go cheap......Icon Neutral
i told them it would be best if i redid the whole network but they dont want to spend the money...
im not wanting to broadcast a new signal. i just want to extend it.
Like i said they dont want to pay me to make a new network Man Sad
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yea.. and the owner is wanting to go cheap......Icon Neutral

i told them it would be best if i redid the whole network but they dont want to spend the money...

im not wanting to broadcast a new signal. i just want to extend it.

Like i said they dont want to pay me to make a new network Man Sad


Only thing I can suggest then is to setup a mesh network or repeaters would be the best to keep the original setup intact.

You obviously have power available to plug in more Radios configured in Repeater mode?
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