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NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR

Hi,

We have to bridge the wireless to an outdoor equipement. This equipement must be connected to the Outdoor AP with a network cable and bridge to the internal wireless 100 foots farther.

Can we use the actual UniFi AP LR Wireless signal to brige with the NanoStation M (outdoor) and use it to bridge the signal to a wired equipement ?

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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR

Yes, that should work without issues. This
NanoStation Loco M2 should be set to station mode.

[I assume that bar at left is a wired switch.]

But I assume the UniFi radio is inside, where
it belongs. Be sure the building itself does
not inhibit the WiFi signal to the NanoStation.   Dave


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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR

I'm confused by your description; a simple
sketch would have helped.

A UniFi radio is always an access point.
You can use a NanoStation Loco M2 as
a client to a UniFi radio and connect a
device to the NanoStation 'LAN' port.
Range from the NanoStation to the UniFi
varies, but I'd expect well over 200ft--
assuming there are no obstructions.  Dave


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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR

Here is a basic plan if it can help, it's not really a complex setting, I only want to know if the devices are okay for this configuration.

NanoStation used to bridge over wireless from an UniFi AP and use the network cable from the NanaStation to cable a computer or other device

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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR

Yes, that should work without issues. This
NanoStation Loco M2 should be set to station mode.

[I assume that bar at left is a wired switch.]

But I assume the UniFi radio is inside, where
it belongs. Be sure the building itself does
not inhibit the WiFi signal to the NanoStation.   Dave


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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR

Yes it is indoor but the signal is already okay (been tested)

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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR


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Yes it is indoor...


Beware, Dave-D has a pet peeve about outdoor radios being used indoors.  This, despite that Ubiquiti makes a suction cup mount for indoor use.

 

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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR

The UniFi is indoor and the NanoStation will be outdoor.

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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR

if the Unifi is indoor and the NanoStation the building will  inhibit the WiFi signal to the NanoStation.

i have a lot of problems with metal walls and newer windows and tin roofs interfereing with my wifi signal.

cuts my internet speed to a quarter.

Unless your signal will pass through the building ok, i think you need to run an ethenet cable from the Unifi to another antenna outside to talk with the Nanostation.

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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR

'lligetfa', please try not to deconstruct my posts.
I think there's a place for outdoor radios indoors,
but in nearly all domestic residence cases, I
think they are not an optimum solution.

Not a 'peeve' (a personal irritation) but a considered
opinion--which of course you're free to disagree with.

Here, you got it backwards: I was inferring that the
indoor UniFi belongs indoors; I think you'd agree.  Dave


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Dave-D wrote:

Not a 'peeve' (a personal irritation) but a considered
opinion--which of course you're free to disagree with.


One man's peeve may be another man's considered opinion.

You already stated that you assumed the UAP to be indoors so no, I did not get that backwards.

Just having a bit of fun with you and stealing the wind from your sails should your "considered opinion" rear itself with evangelical furvor.

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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR

Generally, when doing a wireless bridge, WDS is enabled between the pairs to assure full layer2 transparency for the end device to get an IP via DCHP.  I have not tested using a Nano as a WET to a UAP but I would not be surprised if you don't have full layer2 transparency.  Hard coding the IP on the PC may be required.

Alternately, you could use a second Nano and set them both to use WDS.  WDS usually works best when both devices run the same software, namely airOS in the case of the Nanos.

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[ Edited ]

Yep: in a western it would be called, 'heading me
off at the pass'. I don't know why you'd want to
bring up this point in advance of it being an issue.
Don't you think there's any value in my 'furvor'
about not using outdoor radios indoors?

Good advice about Layer 2: I'm fairly sure that it
would not be transparent, because UniFi doesn't
apply WDS. That means that broadcast--and
DHCP services won't work. And yes: WDS only
works between two radios of the same brand,
not just ' works best'.  Dave

 


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Dave-D wrote:

 And yes: WDS only
works between two radios of the same brand,
not just ' works best'.  Dave


Call me a weasel for not using absolutes... if I did, someone might go out of their way to prove me wrong, citing WDS between Tomato and DDWRT as an example.  Also I could put DDWRT on ASUS and on Buffalo and they would (should) work.  Just sayin...

Also avoided the wording "same brand" as both the Nano and UAP are the same (Ubiquiti) "brand" albeit different models.

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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR

[ Edited ]

You're right: there are a very few exceptions. I'll
take the flack rather than offer such meager hope--
especially when it's not relevant to this discussion.

When I say WDS only works between radios of
the same brand, I hope people understand I mean
it works when WDS is an available option. If not,
I'd be fairly sure it would not work at all.   Dave


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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR

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I came across this post and realized the setup is almost identical the one i have that i'm experiencing problems with. Here are the details.

 

1) Unifi AP LR is in apartment and connected to Netgear Nighthawk R7800.

2) Nanostation M2 is out in detached garage with one camera connect to it.

3) Due to apartment location and garage definitely no direct line of sight.

 

Distance is probably close to 200 ft.

 

When I setup everything up last night it connected but i only had 1 red bar on the nanostation m2 with the garage door open. as soon as i close it the link dropped all together.

 

If i am at the limit of these pieces of hardware capabilities is there another ubiquit product that would get the job done? Also, all of this was with the wifi turned on for the Nighthawk and UniFi AP LR. Would turning off the WIFI on the nighthawk and only using it as router possibly increase the signal enough to get a solid connection?

 

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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[ Edited ]

Dave-D wrote:

Yes, that should work without issues. This
NanoStation Loco M2 should be set to station mode.

[I assume that bar at left is a wired switch.]

But I assume the UniFi radio is inside, where
it belongs. Be sure the building itself does
not inhibit the WiFi signal to the NanoStation.   Dave


 

Dave-D, I found this thread and it describes precisely what I am trying to do. I am pulling my hiar out.  Any help would be so much appreciated.

I know the thread is old, but this is the ideal solution for me and I have precisely this hardware - 1 x UAC AP-LR and 1 x NanoStation Loco M2.  The Nano is connected by PoE to my router.  I want the AP-LR to simply provide a WiFi access point, connecting wirelessly back to the Nano.

I have the Nano set to Station mode.  I've tried with WDS enabled and disabled.  I've tried with no security and with security matching the AP.  I've tried naming the SSID that the AP uses when connected with wire to the router.  I've tried locking to the AP's MAC address in the airOS settings.  All Channel Widths are 20 MHz. On Nano, network mode is bridge.

On AP, I'm using Unifi desktop App on Windows 10 PC to launch browser window and manage AP devices, networks, etc.

I can't see how to link the two devices.

Very relieved to read you say this setup "should work without issues".  I'm certain you would know the simple setting I need to attend to in order to make it fall into place.

Please help!  Thank you in advance.

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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR

It sounds like you are trying to wirelessly uplink the uap ac lr from the nanostation locom2 is that correct?

 

I'm pretty sure you can only uplink from uap ac ap's to one an other.

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[ Edited ]

Sorry, but I don't see anything wrong here.

 

If the NanoStation is set to station mode, 20MHz channel

width on the same channel as the access point, with

the same encryption settings, it should be a WiFi client.

Use a fixed channel choice of 1, 6 or 11 on the access point.

 

A station should not need AirMax protocol turned off; that

is controlled by an [AirMax] access point--if any. I've heard

of disparities with WDS mode, and I don't know if it needs

to be on or off here. Use the latest fimware of course.   Dave


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Re: NanoStation M bridge wireless to UniFi AP LR


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I want the AP-LR to simply provide a WiFi access point, connecting wirelessly back to the Nano...


A UAP will only wirelessly uplink to another UAP.  It will not uplink to the Nano.  Not sure what Dave is not seeing as a problem. 

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[ Edited ]

He doesn't want it to 'uplink'; he never even used that term.

 

 

He simply wants the NanoStation M to be a WiFi client

to the UAP. I don't see any problem with that; what

issues do you see?    Dave


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